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	<title>Comments on: Calendars love catalogs</title>
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	<description>Daily photo-journal of organic market gardening: growing local food with two acres and some tools...!</description>
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		<title>By: VP</title>
		<link>http://tinyfarmblog.com/calendars-love-catalogs/#comment-13235</link>
		<dc:creator>VP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mike - glad you like the site! I see we keep on playing position swapsies on the top100 gardening sites too ;) I love your photos - especially the recent snow ones - we've got snow forecast for today, but it will be a mere sprinkling compared with what you guys have to contend with!

Best wishes,

Michelle (aka VP)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mike - glad you like the site! I see we keep on playing position swapsies on the top100 gardening sites too ;) I love your photos - especially the recent snow ones - we&#8217;ve got snow forecast for today, but it will be a mere sprinkling compared with what you guys have to contend with!</p>
<p>Best wishes,</p>
<p>Michelle (aka VP)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike (tfb)</title>
		<link>http://tinyfarmblog.com/calendars-love-catalogs/#comment-13180</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike (tfb)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 00:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy New Year to you, VP. I've already started reading your site... It's cool! My new wall calendar's hanging...but still blank. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy New Year to you, VP. I&#8217;ve already started reading your site&#8230; It&#8217;s cool! My new wall calendar&#8217;s hanging&#8230;but still blank. :)</p>
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		<title>By: VP</title>
		<link>http://tinyfarmblog.com/calendars-love-catalogs/#comment-13049</link>
		<dc:creator>VP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy New Year!

I linked to here from my blog today - you can now see a bit more about my system!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy New Year!</p>
<p>I linked to here from my blog today - you can now see a bit more about my system!</p>
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		<title>By: VP</title>
		<link>http://tinyfarmblog.com/calendars-love-catalogs/#comment-11056</link>
		<dc:creator>VP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crumbs - that's quite a system you have there! I guess you need that when you embark on a commercial enterprise. I feel most amateurish in comparison!

Hope all goes well and have a good Christmas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crumbs - that&#8217;s quite a system you have there! I guess you need that when you embark on a commercial enterprise. I feel most amateurish in comparison!</p>
<p>Hope all goes well and have a good Christmas!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike (tfb)</title>
		<link>http://tinyfarmblog.com/calendars-love-catalogs/#comment-10809</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike (tfb)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey VP, thanks for the questionâ€”now I get to write even more about blank calendars! :) I figure that, between the big and little calendars, there should be enough room for almost everything I need to write down. (Of course, there is also my critical, more-compact-than-ever field production map, which completes this year's basic Systemâ€”it's a grid printed on a sheet of paper, with crop locations. I'll put it in another post.) 

I think it comes down to how much information you need. I used to record varieties right down to the bed level, like, if I did half a 50' bed each of two varieties of spinach, that would be noted on the field map and in my notebook: date, number or rows, seeding depth. Multiply that by 120+ varieties across all crops (around 50-60 for tomatoes alone) in nearly 400 50' beds, PLUS succession planting, PLUS all the movement from seedling to transplant, and that's a crazy amount of notes to be taking. 

I eventually realized, most of that detail doesn't do me any good, especially with completely unpredictable weather making season-to-season comparisons seem pretty futile these days.

In next year's System, varieties will be printed on marker stakes with planting dates and stuck in the beds as usual, and I'll keep a reference list in case stakes get...obliterated, which happens. Beyond that, I'll only keep a master list of the season's varieties, and make notes on the calendars of outstanding things only, like, "July 15: 'first toms: few Stupice'". I use obvious abbreviations, but no formal code. On the little calendar, there's that big yellow note space for each month, room enough to jot the variety lists in the months they're first started. It might have: toms -&gt; Stupice (Stu) as the abbreviation, but most varieties I won't write much about anyhow!  I'm ditching all but the essentials. Weather is important: min/max temp and sun (if not daily, at least the spikes and trends), rainfall, storms/major wind. Start and transplant dates. First and last harvest dates by crop. Notes on really good or bad performance of particular cultivars. Row cover dates, tillage, irrigation, other field action like that. At the end of the season, an overall mark beside each variety on the master list (I'll figure that out when I get there, maybe an A-B-C grade). Simple! If something really needs more words, I'll put it on a post-it (those nice square ones!) and stick it in the little calendar.

This whole records aspect is probably (well, no doubt!) one of the few big differences between home gardening and market gardening when you're growing many varieties. I remember first looking at templates and outlines for "garden notes", imagining all that wonderful information for future reference. Heh-heh. Sounded great. I have relatively such a huge amount of...data that I could drown in it if I let myself, it really can become a burden and counterproductive if taken too far. Unfortunately, I don't (can't?) really sketch, or maybe my system would be entirely different. ;) I do take pictures, and put 'em on the blog, which has become part of the System too, I guess! 

That's my reasoning...as usual, we'll see how it works out!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey VP, thanks for the questionâ€”now I get to write even more about blank calendars! :) I figure that, between the big and little calendars, there should be enough room for almost everything I need to write down. (Of course, there is also my critical, more-compact-than-ever field production map, which completes this year&#8217;s basic Systemâ€”it&#8217;s a grid printed on a sheet of paper, with crop locations. I&#8217;ll put it in another post.) </p>
<p>I think it comes down to how much information you need. I used to record varieties right down to the bed level, like, if I did half a 50&#8242; bed each of two varieties of spinach, that would be noted on the field map and in my notebook: date, number or rows, seeding depth. Multiply that by 120+ varieties across all crops (around 50-60 for tomatoes alone) in nearly 400 50&#8242; beds, PLUS succession planting, PLUS all the movement from seedling to transplant, and that&#8217;s a crazy amount of notes to be taking. </p>
<p>I eventually realized, most of that detail doesn&#8217;t do me any good, especially with completely unpredictable weather making season-to-season comparisons seem pretty futile these days.</p>
<p>In next year&#8217;s System, varieties will be printed on marker stakes with planting dates and stuck in the beds as usual, and I&#8217;ll keep a reference list in case stakes get&#8230;obliterated, which happens. Beyond that, I&#8217;ll only keep a master list of the season&#8217;s varieties, and make notes on the calendars of outstanding things only, like, &#8220;July 15: &#8216;first toms: few Stupice&#8217;&#8221;. I use obvious abbreviations, but no formal code. On the little calendar, there&#8217;s that big yellow note space for each month, room enough to jot the variety lists in the months they&#8217;re first started. It might have: toms -> Stupice (Stu) as the abbreviation, but most varieties I won&#8217;t write much about anyhow!  I&#8217;m ditching all but the essentials. Weather is important: min/max temp and sun (if not daily, at least the spikes and trends), rainfall, storms/major wind. Start and transplant dates. First and last harvest dates by crop. Notes on really good or bad performance of particular cultivars. Row cover dates, tillage, irrigation, other field action like that. At the end of the season, an overall mark beside each variety on the master list (I&#8217;ll figure that out when I get there, maybe an A-B-C grade). Simple! If something really needs more words, I&#8217;ll put it on a post-it (those nice square ones!) and stick it in the little calendar.</p>
<p>This whole records aspect is probably (well, no doubt!) one of the few big differences between home gardening and market gardening when you&#8217;re growing many varieties. I remember first looking at templates and outlines for &#8220;garden notes&#8221;, imagining all that wonderful information for future reference. Heh-heh. Sounded great. I have relatively such a huge amount of&#8230;data that I could drown in it if I let myself, it really can become a burden and counterproductive if taken too far. Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t (can&#8217;t?) really sketch, or maybe my system would be entirely different. ;) I do take pictures, and put &#8216;em on the blog, which has become part of the System too, I guess! </p>
<p>That&#8217;s my reasoning&#8230;as usual, we&#8217;ll see how it works out!!</p>
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		<title>By: VP</title>
		<link>http://tinyfarmblog.com/calendars-love-catalogs/#comment-10624</link>
		<dc:creator>VP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good idea, BUT is there enough room, or are you going to use some kind of code to shorten the entries?

My solution for the past 4 years has been to use a Week to View RHS Diary. Usually plenty of space and a nice botanical drawing to look at to boot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea, BUT is there enough room, or are you going to use some kind of code to shorten the entries?</p>
<p>My solution for the past 4 years has been to use a Week to View RHS Diary. Usually plenty of space and a nice botanical drawing to look at to boot!</p>
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		<title>By: ewa</title>
		<link>http://tinyfarmblog.com/calendars-love-catalogs/#comment-10419</link>
		<dc:creator>ewa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ow... that calendar is really great idea :) I think I will adopt this idea :) 
notebooks washed in laundry, LOL
greetings,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ow&#8230; that calendar is really great idea :) I think I will adopt this idea :)<br />
notebooks washed in laundry, LOL<br />
greetings,</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://tinyfarmblog.com/calendars-love-catalogs/#comment-10356</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh that sounds good. Like you as the season progresses my notes get more scattered. I am using the winter this year to get seriously organized and I like your idea. I have been using a "Mom" calendar to record egg production, a ledger to record market sales, a monthly calendar book to record planting dates, a notebook for field notes. Which all amounted to scraps of paper about August when the only calendar I could reliably find was the one on the wall. I resolve to better this time. Thanks for the info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh that sounds good. Like you as the season progresses my notes get more scattered. I am using the winter this year to get seriously organized and I like your idea. I have been using a &#8220;Mom&#8221; calendar to record egg production, a ledger to record market sales, a monthly calendar book to record planting dates, a notebook for field notes. Which all amounted to scraps of paper about August when the only calendar I could reliably find was the one on the wall. I resolve to better this time. Thanks for the info.</p>
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